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> We think this gap is best explained by a mix of three factors. First, compute limitations from US export controls have kept Chinese companies from reaching the capability frontier thus far and likely make investors less excited about their future growth. Second, Chinese AI companies are serving a more challenging home market that’s less ready to adopt enterprise AI. And third, even with a great business case, it’s hard to raise a lot of money in China, both because of a smaller venture capital (VC) ecosystem and because previous state intervention in tech companies makes it risky for investors to bet on rapid growth. Let’s look into each of these.

Isn't there a 4th factor which is Chinese big tech companies are way smaller than the US ones, so there's a smaller starting cloud compute industry, less AI investment overall, including into the AI companies. I think the biggest factor in US-China overall compute gap is from this gap in total AI investment, not the other factors. The total compute gap is a somewhat different question to the gap in AI startup funding which is what you were answering, but I think this general point about the starting size of the total tech industry is the most important factor for both.

ByteDance + Tencent + Huawei + Alibaba + PDD ~= $115B operating income

Apple + Alphabet + Microsoft + Meta + Amazon ~= $580B operating income

Naively this 5x gap alone seems like it explains ~all of the gap in total AI compute, and ~50% of the gap in frontier AI company investment on its own.

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That first chart is staggering. It makes me wonder how Chinese labs have been doing as well as they have, and whether that can continue.

Right now there's a lot of talk about Chinese models toppling the US premiere labs by offering an equivalent product for free. But it's hard to imagine such a situation arising out of such constrains.

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